New York Post Editorial Asserts Yonkers is the Athens of America

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New_York_Post_logo May 24, 2010, New York, NY — What follows is the editorial published by the New York Post on May 22, 2010: 

Maybe Yonkers should change its name to Greece. Indeed, if you read yesterday's [“Padded Pensions Add to New York Fiscal Woes" By Mary Williams Walsh and Amy Schoenfeld] front-page New York Times story about Yonkers municipal pensions, you might think Yonkers is Greece.

Government retirement packages in that nation — along with other lavish public-sector perks — have put it on the fiscal brink.

But pensions in Yonkers — and throughout New York, as in other states — sure give Greece a run for its money. More than 100 cops and firefighters in the Westchester city, for example, get retirement pay above their on-the-job salaries, the Times notes.

One cop, who made $74,000 annually when he retired three years ago (at the ripe old age of 44!), gets a pension of $101,333 — and doesn't have to pay one dime in state or local taxes on any of it.

(And you thought Greece was the only place you can get a raise — by quitting.)

How is this possible?

Thank overly generous rules and practices put in place by public officials to please government-sector unions.

In Yonkers, for example, retirement pay is based on salary plus overtime in a staffer's final years on the job.

So employees, with the blessing of their city bosses, rack up the extra hours and extra pay as retirement day nears.

In fact, the Times says, Yonkers cops who work as flagmen for Con Ed on their days off actually get credit for that toward their city overtime hours — boosting their pensions further.

But it's not just Yonkers: Throughout the state, the paper found, some 3,700 retired public employees collect six-figure pensions.

In New York City, 13 of these people retired at the age of 40 — and nine hit payday even sooner.

No wonder the state's going broke.

Greece, of course, is lucky: It's getting a trillion-dollar bailout.

Who's going to bail out New York?

eHeziNew York Post Editorial Asserts Yonkers is the Athens of America

Comments 61

  1. It is not the police officer or the firefighter who is gaming the system, rather it is the politicians who are gaming the system by playing politics with certain issues for political gains during an election year. With the economy the way it is, what better way to play into the emotions of voters then to blame the police and firefighters for the economic woes by way of their retirement benefits.
    Consider this for a minute, as you finish high school or college and begin your search for a career you evaluate various options open to you , some may seek employment in the private sector while others seek employment in civil service.
    So you consider your options and you decide that you would like to have a career in Law Enforcement.
    Now that was your decision to make, others may have decided on other careers but you have decided that you wanted to be a cop. Now in making your decision there were a number of things you had to think about before taking the job, but in thinking about them you understand the dangers and sacrifices you would be making, you realized that you would have to a bullet proof vest, carry a gun, work weekends and holidays, while your friends and family were off, you may miss family events such as birthdays etc., if you had kids
    you may not see them for days because of your work schedule, while their sleeping your out working, you could go on and on about the negative aspects of being a police officer, however you knew the sacrifices you were going to make by taking the job and you accepted them. Now by understanding the sacrifices you were going to have to make you also understood the benefits that the job had to offer, like paid vacation, medical insurance, dental insurance, certain holiday pay and yes a pension of half of your total salary (including the overtime you worked for). I know it’s hard for some to believe that after all your hard work and sacrifices you willingly made during your career you are now going to use one of the benefits that you took the job for, that being retirement after 20 years of dedicated service to the citizens of the city in which you work.
    A benefit that was not given in some backroom deal or hidden where others could not see it, no this was clearly offered and written in black and white right on the exam notice with the job description for all to see when the job was offered.
    Some may say, wait how can you do that, your taking advantage of the system, so now you have to ask yourself what would those same people say if they had made the decision you have made and accepted the sacrifices of taking a job as a police officer as well as the benefits. I don’t think they would be so fast to criticize.

  2. Too many people cheating. The YPD and the YFD are famous for gaming the pension funds with bogus disability retirements. They think thay have a right to the taxpayers money. With 600 cops on the Payroll and about 50 on the street at any given time, you have to think this dept isn’t run right.

  3. The City (Both the Mayor’s office and the Council) should calculate every dime that was erroneouosly reported to the state and, if necessary, sue EACH INDIVIDUAL who received inflated pensions and get the money back.
    Please do not give me the Oh we thought we were entitled…we spent it already…too late for a do over…etc..
    They money is ill gotten gains and men and women in uniform should realize that!

  4. There was the Westchester correction officer who raked in $108,000 in OT, bringing his total compensation in 2008 to $202,556. And there was the Yonkers police sergeant who earned in excess of a quarter of a million dollars.
    And who will soon forget the municipal wall-painter in Yonkers who made $156,103, which was $15 more than the mayor
    The overtime scam is maddening. Last week, The New York Times published a story on padded pensions using as its lead example the case of a 47-year-old retired Yonkers cop who is receiving a guaranteed $101,333 a year, about $27,000 more than his final base pay thanks to overtime. According to the Times, there are 3,700 retired state workers whose pensions amount to more than $100,000 — and all of them are exempt from paying state and local taxes.
    You might have sympathy for that Yonkers cop and all the others who have been singled out as poster boys of governmental excess. After all, it would seem they only took what the system allowed them to take.
    But that story elevated a local embarrassment to the status of a national scandal. For instance, the Times reported that Yonkers police officers have been allowed to work overtime hours as flag men for Con Edison. Con Ed pays the overtime. However, for some unexplained reason, the overtime is reported to the New York State Pension fund, which means that it is ultimately factored into the cops’ retirement.

  5. One cop, who made $74,000 annually when he retired three years ago (at the ripe old age of 44!), gets a pension of $101,333 — and doesn’t have to pay one dime in state or local taxes on any of it. (And you thought Greece was the only place you can get a raise — by quitting.) How is this possible? Thank overly generous rules and practices put in place by public officials to please government-sector unions. In Yonkers, for example, retirement pay is based on salary plus overtime in a staffer’s final years on the job. So employees, with the blessing of their city bosses, rack up the extra hours and extra pay as retirement day nears. In fact, the Times says, Yonkers cops who work as flagmen for Con Ed on their days off actually get credit for that toward their city overtime hours — boosting their pensions further. But it’s not just Yonkers: Throughout the state, the paper found, some 3,700 retired public employees collect six-figure pensions. In New York City, 13 of these people retired at the age of 40 — and nine hit payday even sooner. No wonder the state’s going broke.

  6. Kurt now that you say you have proof I am
    going to turn this over to the District
    Attorneys office…if you have proof in
    pictures of alleged drug use by my son
    it is your obligation to turn them over
    to law enforcement..he doesn’t do drugs
    and he doesn’t drink…as for cops gaming
    the system thats exactly what they are doing
    overtime is distributed to those about to
    retire..it is not spread around evenly among all officers ..the understanding is
    that the overtime will be used to boost
    salaries in the last years before retirement
    and that has enabled many uniformed personel
    to retire on more than their base salaries
    this practice will stop..whether cuomo stops
    it or people simply demand that their elected officials put an end to it the game
    is over…you can’t go on a public blog
    and make criminal allegations against an
    adult who is not a public figure and not
    have to account for your actions..i am
    meeting with our family attorneys this afternoon…we will be contacting the blog
    site for your name and ip address..this is
    not funny and its not a joke..and your vicious personal attack on my son in an
    attempt to get me to back off has already
    been communicated to the US attorney…this will be my final comment..my attorneys
    will do the rest

  7. “You Suck it.”
    Nice talk for a public figure who hundreds of thousand of people look up to and look foward to seeing on the channel 12 news. I guesss I can’t let my children watch news 12 anymore
    Thanks a lot
    PS I’m sure the founders of the constitution had lawyers like you and Jacobi and Meyers in mind when they drafted it up dopey

  8. tread lightly anon. I wouldn’t have said it if I didn’t have proof. So do your homework before you embarrass yourself.
    I’m just letting you know so you can put an end to it and maybe save a life. Maybe his, maybe someone elses. No one’s saying anything that’s not true, (except you). Get your head out of the sand.
    again with the lawsuit threats. Can’t you settle your problems like a man anon??
    Do you think it’s allright for your to lie about cops “gaming the system” and “legalized theavery” but someone can’t point out some extremely dangerous and illegal activity that your son is involved in? with pictures to back it up???

  9. you can’t read…when they involve public
    figures malice is required..my son is
    not a public figure.malice does not have
    to be demonstrated just the false statement
    so you suck it..and wait for the summons
    and complaint

  10. NY Times vs Sullivan
    The actual malice standard requires that the plaintiff in a defamation or libel case prove that the publisher of the statement in question knew that the statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity. Because of the extremely high burden of proof on the plaintiff, and the difficulty in proving essentially what is inside a person’s head, such cases—when they involve public figures—rarely prevail.
    Suck it moose!

  11. Wow anon is upset! Stop picking on his family unless you can prove it! I hardly think thta lawyers spend millions and don’t collect anything though. I however feel that most of these lawsuits are frivolous and brought about to squeeze the system. Don’t order hot coffee you may get burned, unless someone doesn’t warn me that its hot than I should sue

  12. How does a dislike for lawyers belies a contempt for the constitution? That is your opinion, just like my opinion is that cops should be paid more. Anonymiss is right on, she must have struck a nerve!

  13. go f*ck yourself…lawyers spend millions
    on their clients and collect nothing
    when they do succeed they get what the going rate is…you are a fool and worse
    your dislike of lawyers belies a contempt
    for the constitution

  14. They should put a cap on lawyer fees, they rape the people of this country every day. Put a cap on their earnings too, no more than $150K a year. Doctors dont even make what a lawyer makes, and at least they do something for the public.

  15. and you will have plenty of lawsuits..
    its not enough that this abuse has been
    all over the new york times front page
    and all over the daily news…not enough
    that you cannot defend a pension that exceeds your base salary and that unfunded
    pensions costs are making it impossible to
    pay the states bills…you simply think you
    are entititled to the benefits of these
    political deals. the state of new york should declare bankruptcy..and the bankruptcy referee should reform the contracts and the benefits just like GM

  16. looks like even the editor was offended
    by don’t worry blow and mcdaniels..I have
    saved both of your entries…see you in court…lets see how frivoulous ny times
    vs sullivan is shall we…

  17. in addition there will be a defamation
    lawsuit…your comments are not protected
    I am a public figure..you can say whatever
    you want about me..my son is a college student …he gets to sue

  18. they are defending it and I consider
    their posts to be attempts to intimidate
    me..their posts have been forwarded to
    the appropriate authorities..kids are usually off limits but not for these
    scumbags…because they are defending the indefensible.and i for one will not
    be intimidated

  19. Hey blow and McDaniels…
    If moose’s son is … BALANCE DELETED BY editor. No proof at all. Unsubstantiated. Kindly, Hezi

  20. how dare you accuse my son of driving
    around high on drugs…my son doesn’t do
    drugs nor does he drink…but I digress
    you better look in your own miror ….you will intimidate no one..you get to keep your pensions you don’t get to inflate them in the last 3 years so you wind up making twice as much in retirement as you made while you were working…the world has caught on to your scam and they don’t like
    it…when you signed on for the job you signed on for job security and a fair pension …then your unions made deals with
    the politicians to allow you to stuff overtime into your last 3 years salaries..
    to take advantage of the pension formula.
    now taxpayers are stuck having to pay for
    it…front page article in the new york times ..editorial in the daily news..these
    are union and working men’s newspapers but
    they don’t like the notion that people are
    gaming the pension system and forcing states
    like california and new york into insolvency
    your argument that baseless lawsuits result
    in monetary recoveries is a demonstration of
    how irrational you are..if the lawsuit is
    baseless it gets dismissed particularly here
    in westchester where upper middle class
    juries are concerned about their insurance
    premiums..your insurance premiums rise because people are negligent and hurt others
    because of their negligence…when that happens in order to get them to pay for the
    injuries they cause lawyers have to sue
    are you suggesting that if you run over
    my aunt and put her in the hospital that
    its just an accident and you are not
    financially responsible…and while we are
    on the subject why don’t you give me a list
    of your friends and lets see who has been
    arrested..al pirro was indeed arrested.and
    he paid his dues…no other friends have been arrested..how about you..and your union
    buddies..want me to check…

  21. WEFARE AND ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE THE BLAME FOR NEW YORKS PROBLEMS…STOP SHITTING ON THE WORKING MAN WHAN THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SAVAGES TAXING THE SYSTEM..

  22. I doubt anyone is cheating by not showing up for an assignment in the pd. Assignments are fixed and you have supervisors check the posts, in most times its the cars that need to be filled because of sick/injured/vacation, etc. Multiple bosses and the radio room would know if a car slot is missing a cop.

  23. In the police dept and the fire dept there are people in charge of time sheets and payroll. There are supervisors in charge of making the assignment. They know who is put on the jobs. These are the people who put men on the assignment sheets even though they know that they won’t be present at the job. There should be an audit by an outsider to monitor the payrolls and assignment sheets and some way to prove that these individuals actually were on duty. This is where the cheating comes in.

  24. if the citizens of Yonkers,want to Fix City Hall. there is only one way to do so. vote out all incumbents. and vote in New Blood. also we have to vote into power other then the Political family of Yonkers.(The Spano’s)
    If Mike Spano ever becomes Mayor.(God forbid) you think the Police & Fireman get away with murder now…”Mike will give them the Keys to the city”…We Need someone who will cut out all these extra benefits the city workers get now. and the only person I can see doing that, would be Joan Gronowski,
    We need her Vision & Leadership.

  25. WOW. AMICONE’S PEOPLE AT WORK
    BLAMING BLAMING BLAMING AGIAN AS USUAL…
    THEY ARE EVEN GOING INTO THE HISTORY BOOKS FROM 10 YEARS AGO TO BLAME SPENCER AND PATAKI…
    WHAT A PHUCKING JOKE HE IS AND HIS PEOPLE.
    PHIL IS THE WORST MAYOR OF ALL TIME AND THE WORST MAYOR IN THE HISTORY OF YONKERS.
    IS EVERYONE AWARE OF THE INSANITY OF THIS MAYOR AND HIS STAFF???

  26. All the above posters are correct but pointing fingers no matter how right you might be, does not solve the problem. We are all to blame because during good times we allowed this to go on and on. The unions only took what was offered to them,and have been allowed to operate in a different fiscal reality than the rest of us.
    “We have seen the enemy and he is us.”
    Pogo

  27. True that Kurt, and what is this talk about “Leagalized theavery”?
    Is this guy kidding me? He made his money chasing ambulances and filing rediculous baseless lawuits against hard working people, municipalities and insurance companies whih cause our taxes and insurance premiums to rise. When he sues a business, they have to make up that loss by raising prices on their goods…
    His friends have been arrsted by the FBI for not paying taxes and all types of corrutption. I’d be willing to bet he’s not paying all the taxes he should be… (more on that very soon) and His kid drives around high on drugs (must think he can’t get in trouble cause his daddy’s a lawyer, doesn’t realize he’s going to kill someone some day)
    HOWEVER he still feels like he is above all, and he can dictate what a cop or fireman’s pension should be, who should work what overtime, and and what age someone should retire.
    What a joke

  28. Why are we looking to blame someone for pensions? Pensions make up for low salaries and horrible working conditions. They are part of the deal when people decide to take certain jobs. Most cops and firemen that retire after 20 years (not disability, just regulr retirement) are banged up with injuries they have gotten along the way.
    Perhaps we should look at why the tax base is so low. I’m not talking about raising real estate taxes, HOWEVER let’s take a look at the local businesses, and business men. Are they paying the correct amount of taxes? Are they writing off things they shouldn’t be like AL Pirro was? I’m sure many of them are. Their mother in law’s car, their kids cell phone, rounds of Golf etc etc. When these slime balls cheat, there’s not as much money in the pot as their should be. When slimy ambulance chasers sue municipalities because they know that’s where the money is (and no other reason), that’s more money out of the pot.
    All of this states financial problems stem from lawyers and bankers, NOT cops and firemen. DELETED BY EDITOR—UNSUBSTANTIATED – FALSEHOODS (Kindly, Hezi)…… A Lawsuit waiting to happen.

  29. Blame Angelo and the Spanos is right on target. Time to put ALL the politicos feet to the fire. That means NOW.
    Lesnick and company better get on board and propose some solutions and not just say “it is the Mayor’s budget.” WRONG, it id the CITY’s BUDGET and as our elected legislative representatives the Council needs to step up with proposals. Kudos (however late in the game) to Murtagh and the others for proposing a 5% across the board.
    I know I know it was fairly negotiated etc…. Not today my friends. Everyone needs to give back to save services and jobs.
    Where are the ideas on savings from the Terreros, McDows etc. At least Joan says cut every perk. Joan, how anout standing up for the across the board cuts?

  30. Edelman, you forgot to blame Angelo Martinelli (your political creator) who actually gave birth to the stupid concept of empowering municipal unions in exchange for election support, especially 456.
    You also forgot to blame the Spano family, Lenny, Nick and Mike for taking Angelo’s creation and perfecting it by allowing the unions to share in the administration of government.
    Now the union boys believe that they are employed by the union and not by the City.
    You can witnesss this by the gangster mentality that they demonstrate at any public hearing when they are sure to intimidate and preclude the public from participation.
    Amicone should have had the guts to stand up to this, but has not yet done so.
    Spencer(whom you do blame) took the practice to seventh heaven, has indeed bankrupt the City.
    Ask John about his 1999 deal with the teachers where he gave away and additional $12 Million per year to the teachers (in perpetuity)in exchange for the endorsement of MCLaughlin and Barbato.
    And let us not forget his laughable appointment of Pagano to fire commiccioner. An incompetent and unqualified placed in charge of a multimillion dollar budget, with primary objective of giving away as much as possible to the unions.
    But, then again, that is exactly what John Spencer and Kathy Spring are …incompetent and unqualified placed in charge of a multimillion dollar budget, with primary objective of giving away as much as possible to the unions.

  31. Edelman, you forgot to blame Angelo Martinelli (your political creator) who actually gave birth to the stupid concept of empowering municipal unions in exchange for election support, especially 456.
    You also forgot to blame the Spano family, Lenny, Nick and Mike for taking Angelo’s creation and perfecting it by allowing the unions to share in the administration of government.
    Now the union boys believe that they are employed by the union and not by the City.
    You can witnesss this by the gangster mentality that they demonstrate at any public hearing when they are sure to intimidate and preclude the public from participation.
    Amicone should have had the guts to stand up to this, but has not yet done so.
    Spencer(whom you do blame) took the practice to seventh heaven, has indeed bankrupt the City.
    Ask John about his 1999 deal with the teachers where he gave away and additional $12 Million per year to the teachers (in perpetuity)in exchange for the endorsement of MCLaughlin and Barbato.
    And let us not forget his laughable appointment of Pagano to fire commiccioner. An incompetent and unqualified placed in charge of a multimillion dollar budget, with primary objective of giving away as much as possible to the unions.
    But, then again, that is exactly what John Spencer and Kathy Spring are …incompetent and unqualified placed in charge of a multimillion dollar budget, with primary objective of giving away as much as possible to the unions.

  32. Edelman, you forgot to blame Angelo Martinelli (your political creator) who actually gave birth to the stupid concept of empowering municipal unions in exchange for election support, especially 456.
    You also forgot to blame the Spano family, Lenny, Nick and Mike for taking Angelo’s creation and perfecting it by allowing the unions to share in the administration of government.
    Now the union boys believe that they are employed by the union and not by the City.
    You can witnesss this by the gangster mentality that they demonstrate at any public hearing when they are sure to intimidate and preclude the public from participation.
    Amicone should have had the guts to stand up to this, but has not yet done so.
    Spencer(whom you do blame) took the practice to seventh heaven, has indeed bankrupt the City.
    Ask John about his 1999 deal with the teachers where he gave away and additional $12 Million per year to the teachers (in perpetuity)in exchange for the endorsement of MCLaughlin and Barbato.
    And let us not forget his laughable appointment of Pagano to fire commiccioner. An incompetent and unqualified placed in charge of a multimillion dollar budget, with primary objective of giving away as much as possible to the unions.
    But, then again, that is exactly what John Spencer and Kathy Spring are …incompetent and unqualified placed in charge of a multimillion dollar budget, with primary objective of giving away as much as possible to the unions.

  33. put the blame where it belongs on politicians from Mario Cuomo to George
    pataki to john spencer all of whom greased
    the rails for the union supporters and didnt
    care one whit about whether or not the
    benefits could be paid for.they also never
    considered what would happen if the economy went south..all they really cared about was
    getting re elected…and now that the times
    and post have picked up the story..the public is finally being aware of the cost
    of allowing this legalized theavery to occur
    and they are not going to pay for it..in
    fact…I believe that all these unfunded
    pension mandates should result in a city
    or even a state doing what general motors
    did…declare bankruptcy of the equivalent
    and wipe out the deals

  34. “One cop, who made $74,000 annually when he retired three years ago (at the ripe old age of 44!), gets a pension of $101,333 — and doesn’t have to pay one dime in state or local taxes on any of it.
    (And you thought Greece was the only place you can get a raise — by quitting.)”
    THIS FELLOW IS ON MIKE SPANO’S ASSEMBLY PAYROLL IN A (PERHAPS) NO SHOW JOB.
    HE NEEDS THE EXTRA MONEY SINCE THE PENSION ISN’T ENOUGH
    WONDER WHO HELPED HIM GET THE OUTRAGEOUS PENSION.
    WONDER WHY THE COPS ARE SALIVATING AT THE NOTION OF DUM DUM MIKEY BECOMING MAYOR.

  35. I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE COPS ON FLAG DUTY BUT HALF OF THEM SIT IN THERE CARS
    READ THE PAPER AND TALK ON THERE CELL PHONES
    THERE WAS EVEN A COP SLEEPING ON EX BLVD
    LAST FALL WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON PUTTING A LIGHT IN FOR EX PARK OVER THERE BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT AND GETTING PAID FOR IT
    SO DO WE REALLY NEED 4 CARS ON TUCAHOE RD
    JUST STANDING THERE

  36. Het Haters- Con Ed does not include the cost of pensions in the billing rate. A cop who works 20K in overtime as a flagman is not entitled to 10K for the rest of his life. The gravy train has crashed. By the way who do you think Con ed passes the cost of the highest paid flagmen in America on to.
    It is not a New York State mandate to have police officers working as flagmen.
    By the way, how many cops do we have to pay for to not have people murdered right outside your headquarters?
    Too bad none of the gun toting secretaries and clerks were out eating donuts, maybe that kid would still be alive.

  37. Overhaul the OT/pension system.. Pensions should be base on Base Pay,,,Let them make all the OT they want, but is shouldn’t be included the formula of deciding the person pension…

  38. Don’t blame the cops, blame the politicians. The cops are simply taking adavanatge of the generous laws that favor. them. Yes they are obscene. Yes they are overly generous But more power to them. Taxpayers can’t afford this anymore and this is the point the unions are missing.
    The politician’s are too blame. They pension system needs to change and the pols haven’t had the guts to do it. The reforms passed in December were a joke, they left out cops/fire and lots of other groups.
    According to NYT article, the Con Ed OT should not be used for pension calculations. Yonkers apparaently has been doing this despite the law, for some reason. I think most people would find it unreasoanble for a cop on Con Ed OT traffic duty for one year to get an inflated pension, free of state and local tax, for the rest of their lives, which in their case could be over 40 years. No reasonbale person can honestly defend this as fair to the taxpayer.
    Reform the laws. The current system is simply not sustaianable:
    -No retirement before 55 for cops/fire
    -Minimum 25 years service (up from 20)
    -No OT in pension calculations.
    These reform may not even go far enough, but they are good start and should be put in place right away.

  39. THERE SHOULD BE A WALK ON CITY HALL EVERY DAY TILL PHIL RESIGNS AND A NEW MAYOR AND OR CONTROL BOARD IS PLACED. IT IS PERFECT WEATHER TO DEVISE A WALK ON CITY HALL EVERYDAY! HE NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT.
    WITH AMICONE IN CHARGE WE(YONKERS) SHIT THE BED EVERY DAY. THIS GUY IS A SOCIOPATHIC MAN WITH SERIOUS VENDETTAS AND HAS YET TO GOVERN THIS CITY.
    DAY IN AND DAY OUT HE LIES, STEALS AND CHEATS AND DEVISES WAYS TO SPIN AND PUT OUT FIRES THAT ARE SOARING OUTTA CONTROL! (NO PUN INTENDED YFD).
    HOW ARE WE TO SURVIVE WITH A MAYOR WHO HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANYTHING EXCEPT OUR MONEY@! AND EXPECT TO HAVE GOOD DECISIONS MADE AND A CITY OPERATING PROPERLY??? YOU CAN’T!!!
    AMICONE IS A SCUMBAG LIAR. HE HAS TO GO. THIS IS THE ONLY ANSWER.
    SO WHY/HOW IS PHIL THE BLAMER STILL MAYOR??? CAN ANYONE ANSWER THAT QUESTION???

  40. Most of you don’t want to hear this but when the city bills Con Ed for the work that police do, they INCLUDE THE COST OF PENSIONS in the billing rate. It doesn’t cost the taxpayer anything. Also, cops are not used simply as “flagmen”. Con Ed is digging up entire roads and traffic patterns are completely changed as a result. We need cops at these sites. It is a state mandate to have police at these types of sites.
    But keep the bashing and hating coming, we take it every day, on the street and off.

  41. Its so funny how people make money on a Wall street market where everything is tangible. Most of you, who are critical of the pension system of the civil servant, benefitted for years on a system that made most a lot of money.
    But now we blame the cops and fireman, who mind you, put in HOURS to make their money. It is not make believe like wall street or better yet, like our Elected officials (Cuomo, Amicone, Murtagh, ect.)
    It takes a fireman and cop at least 20 years to get a pension. A politician, 2 terms of 2 years each to get a pension and full medical benefits.
    How many hours a week does a person collecting welfare have to work? Let me guess, ZERO. But as a society, we insist on blaming the working man, who puts in HOURS upon HOURS of work.
    What is going to happen, when in a few years, when the population is doing well again, and making money, in make believe land. Are you, yes you, going to restore the benefits for the working guy?
    Remember, when you laughed at someone who was a civil servant? NOW, you want to play fair.
    WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. I can’t wait for the New York Slimes to run a front page story about how much the tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of illegal aliens are costing this state. How they don’t pay a dime in taxes towards police, fire, sanitation, education, welfare, and health care. I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that liberal rag to investigate such an important issue. It’s much more fashionable to bash civil servants.

  43. No more city cars. No more city gas. No more overtime. No more patronage jobs. Put every city document that is not a criminal, personel or health record (obviously there are some things that need to remain confidential) on the internet for everyone to see. There is the list of what needs to be done. Who can implement it?

  44. The city could very easily cut the overtime in the police department, without the hiring of additional cops. Simply move all the cops that are doing administrative work back to the streets. There are no more cops on patrol now than there was in the early 80’s with the same number of cops on the payroll. The reason is that they are all hidden away doing inside work.

  45. Con Ed and other “private” OT is not to be put towards pension calculations. Its very clear and has been for a long time. Why the hell has Yonkers been adding it to pensions all of these years? Where is the Finance Commissioner, Corp Counsel, Mayor, etc. Why don’t they now the law? Unbelievable!!
    While were at it, why is it that Yonkers is one of the few municipalities to calculate pensions based on one year instead of the custmary three? 100+ $100K retired cops! C’mon already! You can’t make this stuff up. Absolutely unbelievable and unaccepatable!!
    What else do the citizens not know about? What other mismanaged areas will turn up next? One only knows, but at this rate, it will not be long before some new outrageous benefit will be revealed.
    Year after year we have heard Amicone, Spencer, Restiano, Lesnick, etc rant about how the state is screwing Yonkers. But when you see this level of mismanagement and incompetence (not to mention the take home cars and free gas), how can you expect the state and others to take this city seriously.
    The Post is right, Yonkers is the greece of NY. Yonkers in beholden to the unions and always has been. What Yonkers need is a courageous leader willing to call a spade a spade and be willing to take the heat that will accompany it. Yonkers needs a Chris Christy type leader. Only then will things change.

  46. I don’t claim to know much about Athens but if it’s run by a bunch of greedy, arrogant, selfish, clueless scumbags then yes, Yonkers is the Athens of America.

  47. Understaffing = Overtime. It’s that simple.
    Properly staff the police department and overtime will evaporate. When the overtime goes away, the pensions will go down.
    The proposed layoffs of 51 police will cause OT to skyrocket, thus causing pensions to go up, way up.
    How the hell is it that our elected officials don’t get this.

  48. as the NY Times writes:
    “Thank overly generous rules and practices put in place by public officials to please government-sector unions.”
    OVERLY GENROUS RULES AND PRACTICES PUT IN PLACE BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS…
    Hmmm… really and I thought Phil was “BLAME FREE” from the insanity of why Yonkers is being compared to Greece…
    When will he be impeached and how can this criminal of a Mayor continue to stay as Mayor? What a sick joke on Yonkers!

  49. So does that mean all the work Phil has done for capelli and Collins he has to pay back?
    I think we are all smart enough to know he has been working for them the past 7 years?
    Or does the Mayor just go unaccounted for in Yonkers?
    We can pick on cops, fire, teachers and sanitation all we want but when you examine the action or ‘lack of’ for Yonkers on the part of “Ph(B)il Regamicone” and the tremendous lobbying and work they have doine for Capelli, Collins and the rest of the land grabbers – one has to wonder where their time was spent as the city has gone to the shitter.
    All the while Phil telling everyone everything is grand and all Albany has to do is Phil his pockets and Yonkers will just be fine and dandy…
    But we pick on the blue collar guys… what an easy scape goat!
    Amicone and his people are rotten to the boan and more will be revealed when he leaves office in cuffs and a DISGRACED MAN.

  50. The story from Albany is that the State Comptroller is going to rule that overtime worked for private companys will not count towards a pension.

  51. See that! it’s not just the pension these guys get. Tassone got to break his hand three times, break his ankle, blow out his knee, work weekends, work midnights, work holidays, work outdoors in the rain, snow, 95 degree heat. These lucky bastards get it all!

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