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  1. and a word from karen hughes..
    A mosque at the edge of Ground Zero would be much more than a house of worship; it would be a symbol, interpreted differently by different audiences. For some it would be the ultimate expression of the freedom of religion we enjoy in America; for others, a searing reminder of terrible deaths at the hands of murderers calling themselves Muslims. I suspect that the terrorists might celebrate its presence as a twisted victory over our society’s freedoms. Rauf and his congregation are certainly free to locate their mosque near Ground Zero. But I hope and pray that they will show uncommon courtesy and decide not to.

  2. Very simply put if the moderate islamists want
    to make the american public understand that they
    abhor the acts committed in the name of islam
    on 9/11 they will join in as many have already
    in calling for an alternate site..this is not
    about how law abiding muslims in new york city are
    it is about not rewarding an act of terror which everyone knows will be held out to the arab street
    as a conquest of the west…

  3. Has nothing to do with 1st amendment rights. If normal Americans have to put up with political correctness and worry about the sensitivity of various subjects and how it affects different people…..why is it that the sensitivity of this mosque with the victims and victims’ families of 9/11 isn’t taken into consideration. If this was a Christian church being built next to where some radical christians had blown up an abortion clinic do you think it would fly. No and thats because the liberal media and liberal politicians in this country treat christians and jews as second class citizens but yet have no problem bending over backwards for radical islam it is a joke. The double standard in this country is appalling.

  4. margaret obviously you didn’t suffer at all. The men who did this yes they were fanatical and yes they don’t represent all muslims.
    Fact is that on 9/11 there is videos from all around the world in different muslim countries and guess what remained the same. They were celebrating in the streets and burning american flags. Religion of Peace? not at all. Fact is no matter what they say will be there it is only being put there to symbolize that Islam has conquered the west. If you don’t believe me there are videos online you can find that support both of what i just said.
    Fact – the imam of this cordoba mosque has supported Hezbollah (terrorist group) and said that America was an “accessory” to the acts of 9/11. And he has also said that sharia law is similar to our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. If you know anything about Sharia law you will know that it completely demoralizes and degrades women.
    Fact is margaret you are a fool. Another Liberal who believes that the world is a place filled with bunnies and cupcakes. Fact is there are millions of people throughout the world who would love to see this country destroyed. there are dozens of mosques throughout NYC there is no need for this mosque in this location with this imam.

  5. No question that 9/11 was the most horrific attack on American soil ever, and we all suffered deeply, and many continue to suffer. The fact that this was carried out by delusional extremists that claimed to represent a religion – that must not be reason to banish the religion’s honorable followers from the downtown area. It would mean that you are demonizing a religion at Ground Zero, and as Americans, we can’t do that, and must never do that. The ones who did this horrific crime were deluded extremists, as I said before. They were not “believers,” they were mass murderers, criminals of epic proportions.
    In the 80’s and early 90’s I managed the Sufi mosque downtown that everyone is now referring to as “al Farah,” the one that’s overflowing and has been there since the ’80s. Imam Rauf was giving the Friday “hutpa” or sermon. It’s an international crowd. The space is so small, that there had to be two sessions, and that wasn’t enough. Over a year ago, the new location was found on Park, and everyone knew Imam Faisal would go there. The downtown area is full of Muslim Americans who are law-abiding and contributors to society in every way – it’s always been like that.
    The Park51 Center will be focusing on interaith dialogue, serving the downtown community, and providing needed facilities for many community activities of all faiths. Yes, there will be a prayer space, but it’s not exclusively for that purpose alone.
    The pain of 9/11 haunts us all, and we need to engage in renewal of the community down there, that’s ALWAYS been there in peace. We were all terribly shattered by 9/11 and we all need to recover together and not tear each other down when we are building centers for very peaceful purposes.

  6. and charles Krauthammer just opined as follows:
    Radical Islam is not, by any means, a majority of Islam. But with its financiers, clerics, propagandists, trainers, leaders, operatives and sympathizers — according to a conservative estimate, it commands the allegiance of 7 percent of Muslims, i.e., more than 80 million souls — it is a very powerful strain within Islam. It has changed the course of nations and affected the lives of millions. It is the reason every airport in the West is an armed camp and every land is on constant alert.
    Ground Zero is the site of the most lethal attack of that worldwide movement, which consists entirely of Muslims, acts in the name of Islam and is deeply embedded within the Islamic world. These are regrettable facts, but facts they are. And that is why putting up a monument to Islam in this place is not just insensitive but provocative.
    Just as the people of Japan today would not think of planting their flag at Pearl Harbor, despite the fact that no Japanese under the age of 85 has any possible responsibility for that infamy, representatives of contemporary Islam — the overwhelming majority of whose adherents are equally innocent of the infamy committed on 9/11 in their name — should exercise comparable respect for what even Obama calls hallowed ground and take up the governor’s offer.

  7. this is a symbol that can be used both ways..
    in light of what happened at ground zero, the
    mere possibility that this mosque will be trumpeted
    as a symbol of victory for that portion of the muslim
    community in the world that attacked us is enough
    to require it be moved farther away..and in fact many
    US muslims agree

  8. Good video. The so-called mosque debate is definitely a cynical escape from the serious matters before us, like chronic unemployment, layoffs, growing poverty and the new “third world” in America and our budget problems and more.
    The Park 51 Center is a huge project that, yes, will have prayer space, but that’s a small percentage of the usable space. The rest is for a gym, a pool, facilities of all kinds including providing a forum for interfaith dialogue and listening. The location is more than two long blocks from ground zero, and it’s next to a stripper’s bar and an offtrack betting and gambling place – so much for hallowed ground. And the imam is right now overseas representing the US on behalf of the State Department. Hello, is anyone listening that this isn’t a fanatic’s nest? It’s the extremist bigots, vapid politicians, and fear mongers who open wounds and hurt feelings.

  9. libertarians taken to their logical conclusion not
    only want to limit government they essentially don’t
    want any government except that which is involved
    in protecting the US..ie they want no medicare, no
    social security no dept of eduation no fdic or
    national bank and no federal regulation of anything
    how is that going to work exactly?

  10. this is howard deans take on the mosque issue
    My argument is simple. This center may be intended as a bridge or a healing gesture but it will not be perceived that way unless a dialogue with a real attempt to understand each other happens. That means the builders have to be willing to go beyond what is their right and be willing to talk about feelings whether the feelings are “justified” or not. No doubt the Republic will survive if this center is built on its current site or not. But I think this is a missed opportunity to try to have an open discussion about why this is a big deal, because it is a big deal to a lot of Americans who are not just right-wing politicians pushing the hate button again. I think those people need to be heard respectfully, whether they are right or whether they are wrong.
    This has nothing to do with the right to build, and unlike same-sex marriage or the civil rights movement, it is not about equal protection under the law. The rights of the builders are not in dispute. This is about ending the poisonous atmosphere engendered by fear and hate, and in order to do that there has to be genuine listening, hearing and willingness to compromise on both sides. I personally believe that there are other possible solutions that could result from such a process and that a genuine exploration of those possibilities is something we ought to try.
    and i fully agree ..its not about the right to
    build…its about sensitivity to those who lost
    families and friends and about symbolism at the
    site of an attack on the US by a sect of muslims
    who are not so peacefull..ed koch and mike bloomberg
    both got it wrong

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