BREAKING NEWS EXCLUSIVE: City Hall and Yonkers PBA Contract Agreement Proposal By HEZI ARIS

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Yonkers PBAWhat follows is a letter to the Yonkers PBA membership advising them of a long delayed proposed contractual agreement with respect to the PBA by Yonkers City Hall. Those items in bold lettering are as the were copied from anonymously garnered documents. Items enclosed [ items within these brackets are appended by the editor for clarity and designated to be other than what was written by the authors of the letter addressing the PBA membership…

Dear PBA members,

I am proud to announce that we have reached a contract agreement with the City of Yonkers, pending ratification from the PBA membership. This agreement comes after months of hard fought negotiations, including intensive talks over the last few weeks. The PBA Board and I feel that this [is] a deal that offers very fair salary raises, generous increases to the welfare fund and uniform allowances with virtually no monetary givebacks for current members.

It is a ten-year deal that brings salary increases totaling 23.5% more than 26% when compounded. Here are the stipulations.

  • Pay increases as follows; effective 7/1/2009-1%, 7/1/2010-1%, 7/1/2012-1.5%, 7/1/2013-1.5%, 7/1/2014-3%, 7/1/2015-3%, 7/1/2016-3%, 7/1/2017-4%, 7/1/2018-4%. Full retroactive pay will be paid out in five equal annual payments starting in September 2014 and the final retro payment in 2018. If any member retires before the final retro payment is made, the balance of the retro will be accelerated and paid in a lump sum as soon as practicable.
  • Increased contributions by the City of Yonkers to the PBA welfare fund (dental and eyeglass.) The new formula will offer an initial increase of more than $800 per member (75% increase) and built in increases that will nearly triple the City’s per member contribution by the final year of the contract.
  • Uniform increase from $800 anually to $1,000 annually with automatic built in annual increases that will bring it to $1,147 in the final year of the contract.
  • A change to the salary schedule, for future hires only, which will include the elimination of the “Academy” step and the addition of an annual step increase, from four to five. There will be an increase in starting pay; no decrease.
  • A slight charge to the vacation schedule for future hires only. New Hires will reach the max vacation schedule for future hires only. New hires will reach the max vacation days (25) after their fourth full calendar year of employment instead [of] on their third [year].
  • Moderate changes to our 207c procedure.
  • ILLEGIBLE ITEMS…Cannot tell how many
  • A slight change to our sick incentive procedure. The sick incentive is still 10 days of pay but instead of being earned on a quarterly basis (3 months) it will be earned on a 6-month basis(January 1 to June 30; July 1 to December 31.) Should a member not use any sick days in the calendar year an additional 4-hours’ pay (at top P.O. rate) will be awarded and added to the 10 days of sick incentive pay.

This agreement would bring an immediate 6.5% (6.7% compounded) across the board salary increase, followed by an additional 3% on July 1, 2014, bringing top P.O. pay to $89,116 without longevity. 

There will be complete copies of the memorandum of agreement (MOA) posted in a commands no later than Monday and will be posted for four days. On Friday, November 22nd there will be a ratification vote (location to be determined). As per the Yonkers PBA Constitution there will be three informative meetings regarding the contract proposal. The first of these meetings regarding the contract proposal will be held on or about 8:00 am. The second on or about 12:00 Noon, and the third and final meeting on or about 4:00 pm. Voting will take place following each of the information meetings. This is done to ensure that all members are informed of the details of the contract proposal. Members may phone their vote in to their trustee at the balloting site during voting hours, pursuant to provisions in the PBA Constitution. 

I encourage ALL members to attend the informative meetings and to vote. Our PBA attorneys will be at the meetings to answer any questions, particularly about the changes to the 207c procedure. If you have any questions about the contract proposals please reach out to your trustee. You can also fee free to contact me or any of the board members.

If the membership votes affirmatively to accept the contract, the next step would be having the Yonkers City Council to vote for it. Potentially, the City Council vote could happen before the end of November, and if passed, would put the raises into effect in December.

I have one request. Pease do not e-mail these contract proposals or the MOA with anyone outside the PBA. In particular, sharing this info with members of the media can potentially… BALANCE IS ILLEGIBLE.

 

eHeziBREAKING NEWS EXCLUSIVE: City Hall and Yonkers PBA Contract Agreement Proposal By HEZI ARIS

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  1. Not a great contract I wouldn’t be happy with the whole contract. But at the end of the day ur getting retro albeit spread out, I’m a retired NYPD PO and in these crappy times of screw those that get pensions mentality and lets take what we can from them this sounds like a fair deal to me. Not a great or perfect deal but a fair deal and that’s all you can ask for nowadays.

  2. Montero, Russo Pappas, Itzla, Santobello, Cartagena: you guys have turned this whole process into a shameful, embarrassing pathetic display for anyone who reads this rag to see. I am ashamed to be on the same job as you. How can you guys think that what you are doing is good for the job. Disgraceful Aholes you six are..

  3. Who is the ONLY union leader in the city who has stood up to Spano and vocally stood up for his members and every city worker including the YPD?
    Barry McGoey from the Firefighters.
    Why don’t we ask him what he thinks about the changes to 207-c?
    Why don’t we ask him why he wouldn’t agree to similar changes to 207-a?
    Why don’t we ask him why he wouldn’t bring this agreement to his membership for a vote?
    Why don’t we ask him why he hasn’t made a deal with the City yet?
    Why don’t we ask him why he is the only union leader in the city?

  4. Once again we see Detective Ray Montero, Detective Captain Robert Itzla, Captain Matthew Russo, Lieutenant Bryant Pappas, PO Robert Santobello, Detective Hector Cartagena trying to tear down a contract vote behind the safety of a computer. News flash A-holes, there is a thing called an informational meeting where MEMBERS OF BOTH ASSOCIATIONS will debate the merits, one way or the other. Oh wait, that’s not what these losers do.. I hope Montero shows up, it will be another entertaining show of this 60 year old moron stuttering and backpedaling. PS – Lt. Bryant Pappas is one of the biggest dirtbags this job has ever seen. Those that worked in the 3rd back when all know what a sneaky slimy sleezeball he always was. There’s some truth for ya.

  5. Bob Itzla is a disgraceful thief, Matt Russo is a cowardly bald little man, BRYANT Pappas is an ugly, disgraceful RAT, Ray Montero is a mental case who is suing everyone Rob Santobello should be in jail because he is a rogue cop, and Hector Cartagena is a cross eyed zip who couldn’t find a loaf of bread in a supermarket. PERIOD….your time is coming boys….little boys..

  6. Montero, Russo Pappas, Itzla, Santobello, Cartagena: you guys have turned this whole process into a shameful, embarrassing pathetic display for anyone who reads this rag to see. I am ashamed to be on the same job as you. How can you guys think that what you are doing is good for the job. Disgraceful Aholes you six are..

  7. Why the rush less than 5 days and we are forced to make a decision ??? fuck the rat and fuck the contract lets go back to the table and get that RETRO up front!!!
    Hey look I have no other source of income I need this money badly but im not rushing into this and later get screwed cause that’s what I think is gonna happen lets see what the CLS does or the Fire???I don’t know something is not clear here???

  8. We will see you on Friday. Bring your A game PBA Board because you will be called out on the disgrace of a contract.
    P.S Since Keith and Quinn have all the answers they can answer what happened to the money collected for Wayne. ROTFLMAO
    See you Friday sellouts!

  9. if this contract was any good don’t you think the CLS would of gotten also but Tommy is way smarter than the RAT he said let keith run with this I wont take a chance its an insult to say the least vote NO

  10. Anyone wanna buy tickets to the “Ray and Mingy make fools of themselves” show on Friday? I wasn’t even gonna go there to vote but I will if I get to see those idiots get humiliated by KO and Quinn!

  11. Sometimes you do something that is wrong even though you know it’s wrong. Maybe you would go with the wife of a cop even though you know it’s wrong. As far as the contract goes you know it’s wrong but vote yes anyway. That’s how I roll!

  12. “You’re all dicks” You my little Rat are a dick and anyone that bites at this cheese trap. U had one shot at getting this contract passed and U BLEW IT. Retro PAID IN FULL on Sept. 2014 and your crummy contract would’ve probably passed. GREAT JOB BONEHEAD..

  13. Members of the department please do not drink anything that the RAT is trying to pass thru, this is a BAD contract, watch news 12 the Mayor has a big smile on his face talking about how this will save the city, and the tax payer???? simple question if it saves the city money and the mayor is extremely happy ,where are the savings coming out of???,we are not getting anything great lots of give backs and we will work a lot harder, bring your reading glasses to the meeting and have your own lawyer on cell standby if you see Quinn trying to make you drink the KOOL AID……….VOTE HELL NO !!!!

  14. Montero, Russo, Itzla, Pappas, Cartagena, Santobello: you six blue Truthers are an embarrassment and disgrace to the job. The correct forum to debate the contract is in the INFORMATIONAL MEETING. Stop trying to try the merits of the contract from behind a computer. Real men will stand and openly debate at the meeting. Not betting on it but you should come to the meeting like normal people.

  15. if this contract was any good don’t you think the CLS would of gotten also but Tommy is way smarter than the RAT he said let keith run with this I wont take a chance its an insult to say the least vote NO

  16. HERE ARE THE QUOTES TO WHAT WE WILL BE LOSING MEMBERS WAKE UP AND SAY NO !!!
    QUOTE 1
    “the sick leave incentive to require police officers to use fewer sick days over the course of a year”
    QUOTE 2
    “we’ve successfully negotiated much-needed structural reforms to reduce the use of sick leave and overtime”
    QUOTE3
    “the retroactive payments would be phased in over the next five years rather than be paid as a lump sum, providing further relief for the City”HOW ABOUT RELIEF FOR ME AND MY FAMILY I WANT ALL RETRO UP FRONT UNLESS THEY GIVE ME INTEREST ON MY MONEY THEY ARE HOLDING!!!
    QUOTE 4 SAYS IT ALL
    “the retroactive payments would be phased in over the next five years rather than be paid as a lump sum, providing further relief for the City”
    THIS CLEARLY IS A GREAT CONTRACT FOR THE CITY NOT FOR THE HARD WORKING COP MAKING THE STREETS SAFER AND AS FAR AS THE RAT GOES HE MUST GO THIS IS FURTHER PROOF HE IS SELLING US OUT,MAYBE HE IS WORKING ON A GETTING ANOTHER JOB FOR A MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY!!!! VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!

  17. Should we really have to wait FIVE years to collect a debt the city owes us for Five years? That is two slaps to the faces of all Y.P.D. Members of both unions. By NO means does that make any one of us greedy. We have been extremely patient and deserve to be treated fairly. The City always strokes us and tells us how great a job the PD is doing and then repays us this way. Not nice at all.

  18. Hope it’s not too late and desperation kicks into overdrive. It is a less than fair contract. I am trying to keep an open mind because the bills are just piling up. That said I really don’t give a shit at this point and will tough it out a little longer. At this point we have to stand together and say no to the city. Thanks but no thanks and go back to the drawing board. As they say Keith, let the chips fall where they may on Election Day. If you really have the support of the membership then you will be elected either way. Rule # 1 in contract negotiation is never settle for the first offer. You know this so, “DO THE RIGHT THING” for once and do what is right for the membership. In the event this goes back to the table and get’s voted down here are some tips I’ve been hearing from the membership:
    1) bring some of the beef from the end of contact to the first two years at least, maybe add .5 or a full percent.
    2) ask for the retro to be paid out in two installments not “5”. We are all thirsty and need our money that has been held hostage, quickly. It can help a lot of us.
    3) we are already monitored when we are out on 207C benefits so to suggest otherwise is an insult to the hard working members of this department.
    4) instead of calling in on radio shows and acting like a total crackpot just do your job. No need to sling mud anymore because all of your supporters, AKA “anonymous posters” say you have the election won hands down. So I guess that means you can stop posting as well.

  19. Went to Staples and brough myself a calculator today.
    Assume a County Police Officer earned $100,000 in 2009 and each year after
    Assume a Yonkers Police Officer earned $100,000 in 2009 and each year after
    The County Police Officer will receive a $42,500 retroactive check. All at one time in one check, NOW
    The Yonkers Police Officer will receive just under $18,500 in retroactive payments spread out from September 2014 to September 2019. Five annual installments of about $3,000 each.
    Doesn’t take a Mike Spano to see which contract is better.

  20. HERE ARE THE QUOTES TO WHAT WE WILL BE LOSING MEMBERS WAKE UP AND SAY NO !!!
    QUOTE 1
    “the sick leave incentive to require police officers to use fewer sick days over the course of a year”
    QUOTE 2
    “we’ve successfully negotiated much-needed structural reforms to reduce the use of sick leave and overtime”
    QUOTE3
    “the retroactive payments would be phased in over the next five years rather than be paid as a lump sum, providing further relief for the City”HOW ABOUT RELIEF FOR ME AND MY FAMILY I WANT ALL RETRO UP FRONT UNLESS THEY GIVE ME INTEREST ON MY MONEY THEY ARE HOLDING!!!
    QUOTE 4 SAYS IT ALL
    “the retroactive payments would be phased in over the next five years rather than be paid as a lump sum, providing further relief for the City”
    THIS CLEARLY IS A GREAT CONTRACT FOR THE CITY NOT FOR THE HARD WORKING COP MAKING THE STREETS SAFER AND AS FAR AS THE RAT GOES HE MUST GO THIS IS FURTHER PROOF HE IS SELLING US OUT,MAYBE HE IS WORKING ON A GETTING ANOTHER JOB FOR A MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY!!!! VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!

  21. and one more thing we have nothing to lose if we wait till after the elections when the RAT gets ousted, the mayor will not rescind this shitty contract we have nothing to lose only to gain. Stay cool and calm and wait a few more months it will pay off!!!

  22. Members of the department please do not drink anything that the RAT is trying to pass thru, this is a BAD contract, watch news 12 the Mayor has a big smile on his face talking about how this will save the city, and the tax payer???? simple question if it saves the city money and the mayor is extremely happy ,where are the savings coming out of???,we are not getting anything great lots of give backs and we will work a lot harder, bring your reading glasses to the meeting and have your own lawyer on cell standby if you see Quinn trying to make you drink the KOOL AID……….VOTE HELL NO !!!!

  23. Better off going with arbitration….they know they will have to give us much more that’s why they are offering this….read what the Mayor said he pretty much admits that they will have to pay more if we go to arbitration…….VOTE NO

  24. If the PBA members don’t like the contract proposal they can vote it down. But they won’t because it is a very fair, and some say, generous deal in a very tough time. The PBA is made up of a very smart and savvy group of men and women and on Friday they will vote the deal in with an overwhelming margin.
    These Blue Truth assholes, led by that 14B RM and BI are willing to fuck the entire job just to prove a point that can’t be proven. The whole job knows what a bunch of selfish, stupid cowards they are. RM will not come to the vote and Friday because the job hates him, “no question about it!”

  25. great job mayor you really bamboozled the PBA union, the council will definitely approve this in our budget as like you said today on news 12 we are saving the city and tax payers a lot of money, at the expense of give backs and so on ..etc..etc.. congrats Mayor Spano

  26. I have to say the Mayor is really smart and brilliant, he figures keith is so desperate to hang on as PBA leader he needs to bring back a contract, so now the mayor knows keith is on his last leg he figures,hey keith you want a contract here is what I will offer, so now keith is all excited and he comes back with a crummy contract that has so many holes in it that it looks like Swiss cheese, and speaking of cheese the RAT he is he thinks its a great contract, this is one of the worst I have seen in my life, vote no lets get a new leader and renegotiate. the mayor on tv today said this is gonna save the tax payers and the city lots of money, if that’s the case clearly we are giving back a lot!!!! wake up before its too late and lets wait till after the election when the RAT gets ousted,why the rush all of a sudden…….?

  27. HERE ARE THE QUOTES TO WHAT WE WILL BE LOSING MEMBERS WAKE UP AND SAY NO !!!
    QUOTE 1
    “the sick leave incentive to require police officers to use fewer sick days over the course of a year”
    QUOTE 2
    “we’ve successfully negotiated much-needed structural reforms to reduce the use of sick leave and overtime”
    QUOTE3
    “the retroactive payments would be phased in over the next five years rather than be paid as a lump sum, providing further relief for the City”HOW ABOUT RELIEF FOR ME AND MY FAMILY I WANT ALL RETRO UP FRONT UNLESS THEY GIVE ME INTEREST ON MY MONEY THEY ARE HOLDING!!!
    QUOTE 4 SAYS IT ALL
    “the retroactive payments would be phased in over the next five years rather than be paid as a lump sum, providing further relief for the City”
    THIS CLEARLY IS A GREAT CONTRACT FOR THE CITY NOT FOR THE HARD WORKING COP MAKING THE STREETS SAFER AND AS FAR AS THE RAT GOES HE MUST GO THIS IS FURTHER PROOF HE IS SELLING US OUT,MAYBE HE IS WORKING ON A GETTING ANOTHER JOB FOR A MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY!!!! VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!

  28. mayor mike said on news 12 today those savings!!!! which means our money we are losing is saving the city a lot od money go to news 12 and see for your self!!! FUCKING RAT BASTARD KEITH HAS TO GO!@!!!
    VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO!!!

  29. Assume a County Police Officer earned $100,000 in 2009 and each year after
    Assume a Yonkers Police Officer earned $100,000 in 2009 and each year after
    The County Police Officer will receive a $42,500 retroactive check
    The Yonkers Police Officer will receive just under $18,500 in retroactive payments spread out from September 2014 to September 2019.
    Doesn’t take a Mike Spano to see which contract is better.

  30. “Holes in the fence”, there’s a hole in you head. Hey empty brain you should get your facts straight. For a guy that sounds so tough behind a computer, you really are still harping on the joke days of the third pct? That went on everywhere in the city, if you didn’t have thick skin you would transfer to A desk job bitch. Tough love never hurt anyone but the weak and simple minded. For if you could not take a joke or critism, how the hell would we be able to trust and work side by side with each other. Throughout this NFL case I would believe you would be supporting Martin, another scared child in a mans body. As for your bogus contract, there are still some us not privy to receiving the great emails that the PBA sends out. You have a leak in your own ratpack. Someone probably thought by posting this bogus, first proposal btw in over four years, that it would help you dummy. Stop blaming BLUE TRUTH for all of your short comings. It’s not our fault you were born with a tiny prick.

  31. Why not have an informational meeting with “all union leaders” present to discuss the merits of this offer? Different views as to the how and why might make for a better, stronger contract. Slow down fellas, there is more to this contract then meets the eye.

  32. Keith Olson is a sell out rat, that has committed another labor violation. He selectively excluded members from his own union from gaining access to the email sent out. The contract is anything but fair. Its a shame. What are you getting keith?

  33. the only hole in the fence is you Olson, Moran who is sleeping with Mueller’ best friends wife. You guys are all invite to each others house for a party. Olson can’t shine Pappas shoes. You should have studied KO. Soon Pappas will be a real Captain, not like your pathetic wimp friend that cried over a transfer order . Then he had a three tour beer fest, lied to IAD, and got three of his men to take the hit. What a loser.

  34. Once again we see Detective Ray Montero, Detective Captain Robert Itzla, Captain Matthew Russo, Lieutenant Bryant Pappas, PO Robert Santobello, Detective Hector Cartagena trying to tear down a contract vote behind the safety of a computer. News flash A-holes, there is a thing called an informational meeting where MEMBERS OF BOTH ASSOCIATIONS will debate the merits, one way or the other. Oh wait, that’s not what these losers do.. I hope Montero shows up, it will be another entertaining show of this 60 year old moron stuttering and backpedaling. PS – Lt. Bryant Pappas is one of the biggest dirtbags this job has ever seen. Those that worked in the 3rd back when all know what a sneaky slimy sleezeball he always was. There’s some truth for ya…

  35. by the way how can we keep keith as president when soon he will be hit by a FEDERAL lawsuit???? he wont be able to defend his criminal actions and do we really want a president who will be in all major news papers soon????

  36. lets wait till after elections when the rat gets ousted, this contract is a bad one to say the least, we have nothing to loose and a few more months wont kill anyone ,time for a new leader keith is old and tired!!!
    p.s. as a city hall insider I heard the council members personally say this is great for the city such a shitty contract……….

  37. We pay enough for health insurance already. THOUSANDS and we have been paying a long time.
    County Police got $20,000 raise and pay $3,000 for health insurance. And retro now not over 5 years.
    I’ll take that deal over our deal any day.
    Mike Spano played us like fools.

  38. County PD gave back 3% toward their health insurance. On another note, is Hector crying these days? I mean he does have a crazy crooked eye. What about Itzla? Will he represent himself when he gets collared? Much more important questions. Itzla has the people and leadership skills of a manhole cover.

  39. Once again we see Detective Ray Montero, Detective Captain Robert Itzla, Captain Matthew Russo, Lieutenant Bryant Pappas, PO Robert Santobello, Detective Hector Cartagena trying to tear down a contract vote behind the safety of a computer. News flash A-holes, there is a thing called an informational meeting where MEMBERS OF BOTH ASSOCIATIONS will debate the merits, one way or the other. Oh wait, that’s not what these losers do.. I hope Montero shows up, it will be another entertaining show of this 60 year old moron stuttering and backpedaling. PS – Lt. Bryant Pappas is one of the biggest dirtbags this job has ever seen. Those that worked in the 3rd back when all know what a sneaky slimy sleezeball he always was. There’s some truth for ya….

  40. Westchester County PBA got 3% in 2009, 2.75% in 2010 and then 2.5’s thru 2014. It sounds good. BUT, they also agreed to forfeit 3.125% of their pay to pay for health insurance. That wipes out the 3 in ’09 and part of the 2.75 in ’10.
    New Ro’s numbers are close to YPD’s but they also added a step for newbies AND lowered starting pay by 10%!
    Yonkers raised starting pay, has no major givebacks and get a bump in their welfare fund that is equal to a full percentage point.
    Best contract in this region, hands down.

  41. Hey “cop hater” go scratch keiths sack we just want fair and equitable contract look at the other unions they all got 2.5 or better, and retro was up front!!!!! and as far as Randolph Scott goes who cares about if he hates cops ??? the fact is he is right and ko is wrong to lead us in 2014 throw the bum out and lets get a fresh clean leader that will do the right thing by the members, we have nothing to lose this deal is on the table we can wait till after elections and see what a professional leader does I bet he does a lot more better than the RAT!!!

  42. At first glance at the numbers being thrown around, any raise in pay is welcome. However, in comparison to the other county wide recently settled contracts the Yonkers Police Department is getting a sour deal. With the economy forecasting a whopping rate in inflation, no one knows what the state of the economy will be with a lock in ten year deal. The PBA needs a well verse labor lawyer, not a criminal expert.

  43. The members of the Yonkers Police Department need to dump that sell out. We will get at least 2% up front, and get our retro now. Nice job working with other union leaders. I guess you forgot about the union luncheon. Your members are being led by a blind dog.

  44. Every job in the county got higher numbers up front. They also got retro up front, not like what that sack of shit Olson, and his trustees will be telling you. There magic dust will be the word its ” compounded”. This contract is the worst in the county. Why would our union leader open up 207C, and agree to retro given over five long years.

  45. Randolph McLaughlin, a lawyer and professor who teaches labor law at Pace University, said a contract covering so many years was “highly unusual.” He said it’s clear why management would want a 10-year deal: it offers stability and makes planning much simpler. But the benefit for the officers is less apparent.
    “For the union, sure, I know what I’m going to be making in eight years, but what the police officer doesn’t know is what the cost of living is going to be in six years,” he said. “I can’t imagine why a union would agree to that.”
    This is an outside professer who has no skin in the game.

  46. Randolph McLaughlin, a lawyer and professor who teaches labor law at Pace University, said a contract covering so many years was “highly unusual.” He said it’s clear why management would want a 10-year deal: it offers stability and makes planning much simpler. But the benefit for the officers is less apparent.
    “For the union, sure, I know what I’m going to be making in eight years, but what the police officer doesn’t know is what the cost of living is going to be in six years,” he said. “I can’t imagine why a union would agree to that.”
    This is an outside professer who has no skin in the game.

  47. Randolph McLaughlin, a lawyer and professor who teaches labor law at Pace University, said a contract covering so many years was “highly unusual.” He said it’s clear why management would want a 10-year deal: it offers stability and makes planning much simpler. But the benefit for the officers is less apparent.
    “For the union, sure, I know what I’m going to be making in eight years, but what the police officer doesn’t know is what the cost of living is going to be in six years,” he said. “I can’t imagine why a union would agree to that.”
    This is an outside professer who has no skin in the game.

  48. This conversation is really troubling and the reason is because there is not a single word about serving the taxpayers that pay your salary.
    if posters here are representative of YPD- we are in big trouble. You f*ckers ain’t exactly rocket scientists and you don’t know when you’ve been given a gift… or taken for a ride.
    the Mayor and your PBA Rep just silenced everyone of you. you’ll debate the 1 or 2 and the retro.
    But you’re happy! you got your contract! yeah for you!
    Now to the point: after months of reading your blue truth bullshit and since you are taking my money- why don’t you little shits actually go do something – something like CIVIL SERVICE
    Here’s one example for you: I’m certain if there was a gun fired at 0400 in my home- someone would be in jail. but hey i’m not on the Mayor’s development arm….or president of the BID
    Oh i see….. you fat f*cks still sit around in the back room smoking your cigars and cutting deals while the taxpayers get raped. Nothing has changed except you got your raise.
    Congratulations on your victory.
    I hope you choke on on it.

  49. This conversation is really troubling and the reason is because there is not a single word about serving the taxpayers that pay your salary.
    if posters here are representative of YPD- we are in big trouble. You f*ckers ain’t exactly rocket scientists and you don’t know when you’ve been given a gift… or taken for a ride.
    the Mayor and your PBA Rep just silenced everyone of you. you’ll debate the 1 or 2 and the retro.
    But you’re happy! you got your contract! yeah for you!
    Now to the point: after months of reading your blue truth bullshit and since you are taking my money- why don’t you little shits actually go do something – something like CIVIL SERVICE
    Here’s one example for you: I’m certain if there was a gun fired at 0400 in my home- someone would be in jail. but hey i’m not on the Mayor’s development arm….or president of the BID
    Oh i see….. you fat f*cks still sit around in the back room smoking your cigars and cutting deals while the taxpayers get raped. Nothing has changed except you got your raise.
    Congratulations on your victory.
    I hope you choke on on it.

  50. This conversation is really troubling and the reason is because there is not a single word about serving the taxpayers that pay your salary.
    if posters here are representative of YPD- we are in big trouble. You f*ckers ain’t exactly rocket scientists and you don’t know when you’ve been given a gift… or taken for a ride.
    the Mayor and your PBA Rep just silenced everyone of you. you’ll debate the 1 or 2 and the retro.
    But you’re happy! you got your contract! yeah for you!
    Now to the point: after months of reading your blue truth bullshit and since you are taking my money- why don’t you little shits actually go do something – something like CIVIL SERVICE
    Here’s one example for you: I’m certain if there was a gun fired at 0400 in my home- someone would be in jail. but hey i’m not on the Mayor’s development arm….or president of the BID
    Oh i see….. you fat f*cks still sit around in the back room smoking your cigars and cutting deals while the taxpayers get raped. Nothing has changed except you got your raise.
    Congratulations on your victory.
    I hope you choke on on it.

  51. So let me get this straight. You Blue Truthers have been crying for months about not having a contract for so long and now you are crying that you want to wait even longer? What a crew of desperate idiots.

  52. In my professional opinion I say VOTE NO for one simple reason. The mayor will not rescind this offer so why not wait till after election to vote in a new leader and one who has a better chance of getting the members comparable contract like other unions??? we really have nothing to lose really think about it???……………

  53. NO GIVE BACKS!!!
    Full retroactive pay will be paid out in five equal annual payments starting in September 2014 and the final retro payment is 2018. If any member retires before the final retro payment is made, the balance of the retro will be accelerated and paid in a lump sum as soon as practicable,
    NO GIVE BACKS!!!
    •Moderate changes to our 207c procedure
    NO GIVE BACKS!!!
    •ILLEGIBLE ITEMS…Cannot tell how many???
    NO GIVEBACKS!!!
    •A slight change to our sick incentive procedure. The sick incentive is still 10 days of pay but instead of being earned on a quarterly basis (3 months) it will be earned on a 6-month basis(January 1 to June 30; July 1 to December 31.)
    ONCE WE SEE THE FINE DETAILS YOU ALL WE ALL SEE THIS IS ABD CONTRACT!!!
    THIS IS BULL SHIT KEITH IS TRYING HIS HARDEST TO HOLD ON TO HIS SEAT,BUT ONCE A RAT ALWAYS A RAT!!

  54. hey rat you really think 23% is a lot over 10 years when in fact we are giving up other give backs???please this contract only benefits the mayor. It stinks like you, also I would have to wait 5 years for retro???you must think we are stupid go back to the drawing board you fucking fat rat bastard and work harder!!!Otherwise we will vote you out and get another leader that works for all of us ,we have nothing to lose, we waited 5 years we will wait a few months longer with fresh leadership that is long over due!!!
    did I ever say you are a fucking rat you sell out miserable fat fuck!!!

  55. also lets not forget the rats past performance, he fucks anyone and anything for his own benefit. VOTE NO proudly we will get a better contract!!!

  56. this contracts robs peter to pay Paul, vote it down we have nothing to lose and lets await till after elections and get a real leader that has our best interest at heart, why else would the mayor do this it benefits the city, he is not running till 2016???? this contract stinks and especially the 207c read the fine lines members!!!!

  57. oohhhh one more thing I bet you keith rams this down our throat say we need to act on this ASAP….something smells rotten in Denmark????
    Posted by: Wake up | November 17, 2013 at 23:03
    personally I would rather wait and negotiate after the new year, what ever the mayor offers us can not be rescinded, maybe with a real PBA leader we will be able to get at least 2.5% and better fuck 1s,this is a desperate ploy by keith begging for something, cant wait to see what we have to give back besides fucking over the new recruits with less starting pay.one thing for sure this contract benefits the city why else would mikey be doing this in a non election year?????
    Posted by: Wake up | November 17, 2013 at 23:01
    look what the county got 3% FIRST YEAR!!!!then 2.75% read it here is link mike spano is snow balling us
    http://www3.westchestergov.com/news/all-press-releases/4553-tentative-contract-agreement-with-county-police-union
    Posted by: Wake up | November 17, 2013 at 22:52
    Its also funny that the supervisors (CLS) did not accept also the fire did not accept don’t jump the gun members……………
    Posted by: Wake up | November 17, 2013 at 22:48
    paragraph 9 read it good this is not a good contract!!!
    Posted by: Wake up | November 17, 2013 at 22:46
    Hey guys listen to what the lawyers says about New Rochelle pba contract as far as cost of living
    http://www.rondelord.com/gospelaccordingtodelord/2013/06/17/new-rochelle-police-union-strike-rare-10-year-deal/
    Posted by: Wake up | November 17, 2013 at 22:43

  58. First of all the county corrections blew us away look at chart up top. Look at all the retro they got than add in all the compounded interest . They got that in one year in the first 2,years they got 4% more than us .,, that’s a lot of fucking money. After you compound those 2 years after the 10 years of our contract it equals nearly 5% more. So stop saying we got a great contract.
    Look at bottom of chart up top were it stated cost of living index. Averages out to 2.7% per year.
    What did we get 2.3% per year …. So stop the nonsense. This isn’t a great contract.

  59. First of all the county corrections blew us away look at chart up top. Look at all the retro they got than add in all the compounded interest . They got that in one year in the first 2,years they got 4% more than us .,, that’s a lot of fucking money. After you compound those 2 years after the 10 years of our contract it equals nearly 5% more. So stop saying we got a great contract.
    Look at bottom of chart up top were it stated cost of living index. Averages out to 2.7% per year.
    What did we get 2.3% per year …. So stop the nonsense. This isn’t a great contract.

  60. First of all the county corrections blew us away look at chart up top. Look at all the retro they got than add in all the compounded interest . They got that in one year in the first 2,years they got 4% more than us .,, that’s a lot of fucking money. After you compound those 2 years after the 10 years of our contract it equals nearly 5% more. So stop saying we got a great contract.
    Look at bottom of chart up top were it stated cost of living index. Averages out to 2.7% per year.
    What did we get 2.3% per year …. So stop the nonsense. This isn’t a great contract.

  61. Ummm, I think you mean “ILLEGIBLE.” Put some [brackets] around that genius.
    Thanks for taking the time to tell me. Much appreciated.
    Kindly, Hezi

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