How Will You Vote Regarding The New York State Constitutional Convention Proposition?

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    Don’t fall for a cruel joke. Vote No on Proposition 1 on Election Day and reject the Joker’s Constitutional Convention. And then please vote FOR your union’s endorsed candidates.~ Barry McGoey, President, I.A.F.F. – Yonkers Local 628.
eHeziHow Will You Vote Regarding The New York State Constitutional Convention Proposition?

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  1. Mike – who wrote the letter?

    While I would want many of the cited changes in the letter, I do not believe voters will be able to make a informed vote for delegates.

    “The League of Women Voters believes it is important that voters choose delegates who will embody change” – But is this realistic?

    Gerald Benjamin knows Albany as well as anyone in the state. His YES on prop one is based on hopes and wishes – his sentiments not mine.

  2. “Reform can be done legislatively already”. A point buried in this pro Con Con diatribe. Why would we pay upward of 100 MILLION dollars to fund a party for the well connected? We have the ability to change all of the above NOW! Sorry Mika, your spin doesn’t hold water. If you want something changed, fight for it! Don’t pay someone and hope they change it for you! Unless YOU (Mika) are hoping to be one of the paid party goers?

  3. The right for ALl children to a free K – 12 public education is guaranteed in the Consitution. Don’t risk big business and big money lobbyists taking away that constitutional guarantee. Vote no on a Constitutional Convention. Vote no on Proposition 1.

  4. Do you really think the little “people” which the Constitution is designed to protect will come out ahead if there is a Constitutional Convention? That’s why you should just vote no.

  5. Sorry – a lot of this is untrue hype and fear mongering (also called “fake news”) made up by fringe groups. I am NOT telling you how to vote, but don’t use the above ad as your only criteria. There are many reasons to be for ConCon. Many good government not-for-profits recommend that you vote “yes.” You need to make up your mind based on real facts. For additional information, Google “Why approve Con Con in NYS” and you can read opinions on both sides of the issue.

    If you want to read a well written 2-page article with a more balanced point of view, it follows – feel free to copy and share. Everyone should first look
    at the facts, and then decide. Don’t base your decision on lawn signs and
    fear-mongering publicity.

    2017 Constitutional Convention Ballot Question – here are some facts and also opinions from proponents and opponents:
    On November 7th New Yorkers will have an opportunity, which occurs only once every 20 years, to call for a Constitutional Convention to be convened in 2019 to consider changes to the New York State Constitution.
    It is important to remember that any proposed changes recommended by the Convention would be subject to voter approval.
    A Constitutional Convention (called Con Con) would provide New Yorkers the opportunity to consider critical reforms that Albany has refused to undertake, including in the areas of:

    -Voting reforms, bringing New York’s elections into the 21st century
    -Rooting out corruption, including reducing the influence of money in our political system and instituting an effective ethics enforcement agency
    -Fair legislative redistricting, completely removed from sitting legislators
    -Streamlining and modernizing our court system, making it more effective
    -Reinforcing and strengthening our bill of rights, guaranteeing our personal freedoms and meeting our basic human needs.

    Through the convention process, voters can introduce term limits for lawmakers, require public campaign financing, enable early voting and increase access to absentee ballots — all proposals that will encourage more competitive elections.
    These changes can ensure a state government that best represents the needs of all NYS residents. Through a constitutional convention, we can demand transparency to backroom dealings in Albany by mandating public oversight of budgetary decisions and requiring narrow, set purposes for all money funneled into the budget.
    Given the long history of inaction in Albany, a constitutional convention is the only platform New Yorkers have to limit outside income for legislators and push for ethics reform that will ensure all lawmakers act in the best interest of the state rather than lining their own pockets. By updating the New York State Constitution, we can work together to solve the corruption problem endemic to state governance.

    One of the most important changes that can occur is the overhaul of our antiquated court system. In 2007, the Commission on the Future of New York State Courts, which was established by the late Chief Judge of New York State, Judith Kaye, referred to New York’s judiciary as one of the “most archaic and bizarrely convoluted court structures in the country.” This structure undercuts the best efforts of talented judges and administrators to make it function in an efficient and cost-effective manner. The commission estimated that this wasteful structure costs New Yorkers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.

    If voters approve the Constitutional Convention question in 2017, a total of 189 delegates from State Senate districts and 15 at-large delegates will be elected in November 2018.
    There is nothing stopping politicians from being elected as a delegates. While a small number of delegates to the 1967 con-con were sitting state lawmakers, (fewer than 10 percent) a good number were former elected officials, judges and people involved in politics. The speaker of state Assembly was president of con-con, and the majority leader of Senate Republicans was the minority leader of con-con. Democrats held a majority of the seats.

    This, opponents of a convention argue, is exactly what shouldn’t happen: people in power controlling the convention. This would prevent things like ethics reform and term limits from getting passed.
    There is no doubt that corporations, their lobbyists and Albany politicians would take advantage of the system to try to rewrite the state constitution. “The League of Women Voters believes it is important that voters choose delegates who will embody change,” said NYS LWV President Dare Thompson. “We will work with other groups in New York State to strengthen the delegate selection process to ensure the election of an informed and diverse group of delegates committed to fundamental reform.” Opponents of con-con argue it will cost too much: the high estimate is $160 million, an estimate based on inflation rates. Proponents argue it will be lower, $50 million-$75 million.

    Proponents, like Dick Dadey, executive director of Citizens Union, a good government group, argues voters can expect to see ethics reform and term limits addressed. Gerald Benjamin, veteran political science professor and director of The Benjamin Center at SUNY New Paltz argues the convention will provide “democratic accountability and good government,” changing the “three men in a room” culture and look at improving legislative redistricting.

    Others want to see criminal justice reform, and all see the lengthy and outdated document as in need of some housekeeping. Opponents argue the people in charge in Albany now will most likely drive the agenda at the convention and continue to stymie progress on those items. They also argue that reform can be done legislatively, saving the cost and time of a convention. Most labor unions oppose a convention because they fear worker protections will weaken and pensions hurt, an argument that proponents say is fear mongering. Some say that public pensions, collective bargaining and the “forever wild” clause that protects the Adirondacks could be eliminated by a constitutional convention. The reality is that this is fear-mongering: None of those issues are goals for convention proponents. And each is widely supported by New Yorkers who, remember, have to vote on any potential amendments produced by a convention. The right of public workers to a pension came from the 1938 constitutional convention.

    Many not for profit good government groups and news editorial writers are in favor of Con Con. An example is below. For additional information, Google “Why approve Con Con in NYS” and you can read opinions on both sides of the issue.
    —— (one editorial excerpt – from Newsday ———-
    A constitutional convention could propose a raft of improvements.
    Like making it easier for people to cast ballots with early voting, “no-excuse” absentee voting, combined federal and state primary dates, and simpler ballots.
    Like making it easier for candidates to get on the ballot, and giving voters real choices by banning cross-endorsements by political parties.Like producing election districts that more accurately reflect the voters in them by adopting independent redistricting. Like instituting real ethics reforms such as limits on outside income for legislators, term limits, a full-time legislature, closing the LLC loophole for campaign contributions, and public campaign financing. Like adding a constitutional right to clean air and water, and protection from discrimination based on gender and sexual orientation.

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